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So, of late, things are starting to look a little scary.

This is wonderful. 

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/prison-awaiting-hostile-bloggers/


So it this.

http://www.tdbimg.com/files/2009/04/30/-hsra-domestic-extremism-lexicon_165213935473.pdf

(U)  rightwing extremism (...) A movement of rightwing groups or individuals who can be broadly divided into those who are primarily hate-oriented, and those who are mainly antigovernment and reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.


So, if I agree with the breakdown of state and federal power as outlined in the constitution, I am by definition a right-wing extremist and no better than, say, bombers of abortion clinics?  Also, if I favor the constitution-as-written, I am therefore 'antigovernment'?

I guess the lawmakers in Oklahoma better pack their bags. 

http://www.newsok.com/house-bypasses-governors-veto-to-claim-oklahomas-sovereignty/article/3366762

Governor of Texas, too.

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/

Lawmakers in Minnesota, too.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2944-Denver-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m4d30-Montana-seeks-to-test-states-rights

I'd say things are gonna get pretty tense around here.

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henrylyne
May. 6th, 2009 08:53 pm (UTC)
If you agree with the US constitution then you are not rejecting federal authority completely. Nice try, but you are not that extreme. Yet.
bxiie
May. 6th, 2009 11:42 pm (UTC)
I never change; society changes around me.

Though, actually, I think I am rather less extreme than I was in younger days.
eloquentwthrage
May. 6th, 2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
Interesting is that this is all happening now on Obama's watch, rather than during eight years of the Constitution Stomp that W. did.
bxiie
May. 6th, 2009 11:43 pm (UTC)
What does it all mean?
rozebud
May. 6th, 2009 11:11 pm (UTC)
leftwing
extremism...A movement of groups or individuals that embraces anticapitalist, Communist, or Socialist doctrines and seeks to bring about change through violent revolution rather than through established political processes. The term also refers to leftwing, single-issue extremist movements that are dedicated to causes such as environmentalism, opposition to war, and the rights of animals.


Yep, and if your wife supports PETA or Greenpeace, she's a leftwing extremist... how DO you two get along?

Edited at 2009-05-06 11:11 pm (UTC)
bxiie
May. 6th, 2009 11:50 pm (UTC)
We don't.

Anyway, I'm not at all sure she presently supports either PETA nor Greenpeace, though she is 'dedicated to causes such as environmentalism (...) and the rights of animals'.

Maybe she's secretly liberal? What an odd thought.
rozebud
May. 7th, 2009 12:08 am (UTC)
When/if you argue, you should start calling her "liberal" in the most derogatory tone possible...I'm sure she'd LOVE that. ;-p
bxiie
May. 7th, 2009 12:20 am (UTC)
I don't want to be a statistic.
fr_defenestrato
May. 7th, 2009 05:44 pm (UTC)
OMG LOL. And I never LOL.
readherring
May. 7th, 2009 02:29 am (UTC)
Re: jailing bad bloggers - couldn't agree with you more. (Even though locking a few blogging loons in a gulag makes for a nice pipe dream.) This sounds like the kneejerk kind of lawmaking that brought us such gems as the 3 strikes, you're out law.

Re: Definition of extremists - I wouldn't worry too much about it. Although the link wouldn't work for me, from the other comments, it sounds like this source has a problem with the word 'extremist'. The gravity of that comes down to how you self-identify. To me, the word "fundamentalist" in front of any name of a religion scores negatively with me, I'm sure that there are lovely people out there who would consider themselves to be fundamentalist in their faith, but don't fall into the loony bracket that I associate with the word.
fr_defenestrato
May. 7th, 2009 05:53 pm (UTC)
What henrytyne said. Also, the dicktionary you linked to says the latter group comprises 'those who are mainly antigovernment and
reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.' It does not say anyone who leans toward states' rights or local authority is necessarily in this group.

Still, it's been astonishing and, frankly, terrifying to me to see the gushing deluge of totally unveiled threats from right-wingers (many of them self-labeled Christians) about the coming war on the current godless, liberal
American establishment. I am not exaggerating. There are lots of people out there IN MY COUNTRY whose hatred and rage terrify me: rage re the idiotic notion that the current president is somehow more socialist or tax-happy than any of the last four presidents; or against the wave of states (and the District) recognizing (or on their way to recognizing) same-sex marriages; and various other issues. Religious extremism is really what I'm talking about, and in a particularly fetid sub-wing of the right wing, it's indistinguishable from political extremism.
fr_defenestrato
May. 7th, 2009 05:55 pm (UTC)
OH and p.s.
Rick Perry has my blessing to get Texas the fuck out of the union.
fr_defenestrato
May. 7th, 2009 05:58 pm (UTC)
Re: OH and p.p.s.
Actually, Rick and his cronies (is there ANY other acceptable word for colleagues in Texas?) have one point: '[HCR 50] also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.'

Oh, like the federal government threatening to rescind all aid to colleges and universities who bar military service recruitment on campus based on DADT?

Trudat EWR: Funny how Perry and similar asswipes had nothing to say about the fedgov overextending its powers when Bush was in power. Because Bush NEVER did anything to extend fedgov power, right?

Feh.
timehole
May. 13th, 2009 02:59 am (UTC)
and once the bloggers are in prison, will they be caned?
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