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First, there's this.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7784387%255E1702,00.html

Next, speaking of Guy Fawkes day, I saw 'Braveheart' last night. It's a fun movie, but claims to be 'based on the life of William Wallace'. Unfortunately, not really. I googled a bit to clarify some details and found that the movie has some character names in common with the life of William Wallace, but that's about it. That really burns me up. Good costumes, nice period tactics, completely made up situations.

Mel Gibson hates the brits, that's for sure. Comparing 'Braveheart' with 'The Patriot' shows a pretty clear formula. Mel apparently thinks it's not okay to stand up for your rights until the baddies off your loved ones. And that's okay, I guess. Did I mention he hates the brits? I liked 'The Patriot' up to the point the brits locked the colonists in the church and burned it down. Call me particular, but if you are going to base your film on history, honor history.

Yep, I'll probably see Gibson's Passions, but I'll bet Christ remains a carpenter until the romans off his puppy.

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readherring
Nov. 5th, 2003 11:10 pm (UTC)
First, it's nice to see that technology has figured out a way to make us look like even bigger idiots.

Second, I remember when The Patriot was first released in the UK. It got a rather cold reception. Very cold. Like Ann Coulter giving a reading at the Democratic National Conference cold.
rozebud
Nov. 6th, 2003 09:57 am (UTC)
Operator, get me Dick Tracey
a wristwatch phone! it's finally happened! Break out your yellow trenchcoat, boys. So, if you snap your fingers, do you get a wrong number?

I remember reading something about "the Patriot" when it came out... something about how did those colonial-types get all them guns? Apparently, we weren't all that well-armed 200+ years ago, whereas in the movie, Mel + Co. had a couple of rifles apiece. Must have been an article about the gun culture in this country, and how it encourages the belief that we've always been and should always be armed to the teeth.

I've read a bit about Passions in the NY Times... apparently Gibson hates Jews as much as he hates Brits. Ought to be interesting!
bxiie
Nov. 6th, 2003 11:16 am (UTC)
Re: Operator, get me Dick Tracey
Re: gun culture... That's what they want you to believe. Colonist were pretty well armed; probably much better armed that we are today in terms of guns per capita.

The person that made the 'no gun culture' claim (Michael Bellesiles)has been pretty well debunked (of course, the mainstream media will never admit that... Like they'll never cover the criticism of Moore's 'documentary'). His major book is Arming America. He was actually forced to resign his position of professor of history at Emory University over his bogus research. Columbia Universary rescinded the Bancroft prize he was awarded for his 'scholarship' in the book. It's really pretty pathetic... A google will show lots of interesting claims that he has made and the responses from academia.

The colonists had numerous requirements for firearms. First, anyone who lived outside of town would have a firearm for hunting, or possibly several (a musket and a scattergun, depending on what you were hunting, plus given one shot every thirty seconds for an average user, maybe a second one for a second additional quick shot). Second, the frontier (at that time, the Appalachians) still had issues with indians, so pushing westward meant self defense... No police to come help out. No 911 to call.

Most soldiers in the revolutionary war brought their own weapons from home. Some localities had requirements that any able-bodied male of a certain age *had* to have a firearm in order to help provide for the common defense.

So, given that Mel's character was a well-to-do landowner, I would expect that he'd have had a shed full of guns, as well as some carpenters and smiths on staff who could whip up new ones in a day or three. So that part is okay. My major issue with 'The Patriot' was the bogus church burning... If that had happened, we'd still be discussing it today.
rozebud
Nov. 7th, 2003 10:00 am (UTC)
Re: Burning Down the House (of God)
I guess there weren't any revolutionary war church burnings? Or just none where they locked the townsfolk in first?

And if God was on their side, wouldn't He have provided some rain to douse the flames?
bxiie
Nov. 7th, 2003 10:09 am (UTC)
Re: Burning Down the House (of God)
I've never heard of the brits locking people in burning buildings. They certainly did burn things; they burned Washington, DC, during the war of 1812, and I would assume a church or two went up with that. I can't think of a similar event during the revolutionary war, though it may well have occurred. In general, though, the brits liked to think they had a code of conduct that precluded waging war on civilians (other than forcing the civilians to house and feed 'em, of course... One person's code of conduct is another's untenable oppression, or some such).

Anyway, I think God is a busy entity. He seems distracted a lot of the time.
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